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loangod · #31 09-22-2006

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Originally Posted by rich_one

uh... I think in this case, Hurricane Katrina kinda helped. some people do "do it to themselves". however this time, in the context of this thread, a storm came and did it to them. so when you say this in that context, knowing more effort seems to have been put into fixing a football field and selling out the tickets to line the pockets of an owner who just a few months ago was trying to get out of town... well... you do kinda sound like a heartless conservative.

Rich, my statement had very little to do with the people that were ravaged by Katrina. It was about our country in general. The majority of the "have nots" so to speak, have been inclined to stay that way and get the government handouts. I would tell them to get off their lazy azzes and go make something of yourselves, or atleast attempt to. Don't wait for Robin Hood to come along and redistribute the wealth. Earn it yourself....they can do it if you care or try. So no, I'm not a heartless conservative, but you sound kinda like far left, big government can do it all guy.

eoeleven · #32 09-22-2006

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Originally Posted by BMD

and the only reason people are still asking for money down here is because we have and still are being royally f***ed by our government!!

come and live down here for a while and see how things really are.

I do not have to live there to know thousands of people still not sleep under the same roof every night. Or that hurricane season is on us again, and while God sprung forth an out of season El Nino that will lesson or prevent a lot of storms it could still get ugly.

The Levees are not 100%, the storm drains not 100%, the Army just flushed millions of pounds of mud and river silt into the ocean that was really needed to help raise the damaged areas.

I know that the millions of dollars spent on the Super Dome would have been better spent else where.

I know the Mayor of New Orleans is partying in New York, having a party with Hollywood stars on a yacht in the gulf, and now claiming that NEw Orleans is 100% open for business because he is a moron.

I think New Orleans would have been better off destroying what was left of the Dome, replacing it with public housing with the cat 5 insurance rating that storms bouns of off like they have all along the coast of Carolina's and California, and giving back some of the wards to nature. In a Cleveland Browns like move let the team go retain the name and start over with football two years from now.

I know New Orleans is still hurtingand you know New Orelans is still hurting but I am not sure the NFL or you mayor has a clue.

rich_one · #33 09-22-2006

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Originally Posted by loangod

Rich, my statement had very little to do with the people that were ravaged by Katrina. It was about our country in general. The majority of the "have nots" so to speak, have been inclined to stay that way and get the government handouts. I would tell them to get off their lazy azzes and go make something of yourselves, or atleast attempt to. Don't wait for Robin Hood to come along and redistribute the wealth. Earn it yourself....they can do it if you care or try. So no, I'm not a heartless conservative, but you sound kinda like far left, big government can do it all guy.

not at all. if you follow the flow of this conversation, it should not be a far stretch for you to see how I read you message as being New Orleans specific, as that was what we were talkinga bout... not "our country in general"... which you did not specify at the time.

needless to say, "our country in general" is not exactly what the situation in New Orleans is reflecting.

and unfortunately, the government CAN do more... and also, so CAN the people. one of the problems?

everybody is too busy bitching and trying to make their party look like the best thing since Jesus' disciples, instead of just solving f'n problems. so do not confuse me for "far left". I think Republicans AND Democrats... and government officials in general... all suck d*ck.

so I hope that's clear.

loangod · #34 09-22-2006

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Originally Posted by rich_one

not at all. if you follow the flow of this conversation, it should not be a far stretch for you to see how I read you message as being New Orleans specific, as that was what we were talkinga bout... not "our country in general"... which you did not specify at the time.

needless to say, "our country in general" is not exactly what the situation in New Orleans is reflecting.

and unfortunately, the government CAN do more... and also, so CAN the people. one of the problems?

everybody is too busy bitching and trying to make their party look like the best thing since Jesus' disciples, instead of just solving f'n problems. so do not confuse me for "far left". I think Republicans AND Democrats... and government officials in general... all suck d*ck.

so I hope that's clear.

You're clear as mud. But if you follow the posts I was making jest of a whine by Beck:

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Originally Posted by becky-mom
as usual...there are a few WITH money while many go without.

May I suggest a socialist society with all the wealth spread equally?
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That was my response. Then she responded "don't be absurd, there is no such thing really". Hence my retort(s), thus spinning this thread into a political one. Katrina, bad, yes, no dispute some people are hurting. I will further say that I'm sure there are plenty of job opportunities for the rebuilding etc of various area and there ARE some that would rather have the government give them a handout instead of getting one of those jobs and earn an honest living. Sorry if you felt my spin was NO related, but you are wrong and jumped to conclusions. As for this thread following any specific path or topic, HA.....like any of our threads follow the original intent!

rich_one · #35 09-22-2006

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Originally Posted by loangod

It was in jest to your bleeding heart statement about so many people go with out. That life, that's business like it or not. It's too bad that some people end up on the low end of the spectrum, but in most cases it's self inflicted. It's all about what they want to make out of their lives. But don't think I'm a heartless conservative, I do feel sorry for some people, but the majority have done it to themselves. BTW, to an earlier post, they spent 180 million to fix up the SuperDome, which cost 160 million to build.

Anyway, my comment before seems to have led this down the political path, which is maybe where it belongs.

Loangod... look this post I included. in the very post, you mention the super dome. this thread was talking about New Orleans. No, I am not wrong... nor did I jump to conclusions. it appears you were also talking about New Orleans... not "the country in general".

so instead of feeding a need to classify someone as being wrong or right, or accusing someone of doing something wrong like "jumping to conclusions" or being "far left" etc... how about we agree it was a miscommunication, and stop it right there? I have a feeling that would be best.

loangod · #36 09-22-2006

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Originally Posted by rich_one

Loangod... look this post I included. in the very post, you mention the super dome. this thread was talking about New Orleans. No, I am not wrong... nor did I jump to conclusions. it appears you were also talking about New Orleans... not "the country in general".

so instead of feeding a need to classify someone as being wrong or right, or accusing someone of doing something wrong like "jumping to conclusions" or being "far left" etc... how about we agree it was a miscommunication, and stop it right there? I have a feeling that would be best.

This was actually 2 responses to 2 different posts. 1 from Becky, 1 from EO where he said something like they spent 25 million to fix the superdome. That last sentence was in reponse to erroneos info from him. So I will stand by what I have said. Or jumping to conclusion as someone kinda souding like a heartless conservative, don't leave that off rich

, I will agree that we disagree.

rich_one · #37 09-22-2006

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Originally Posted by loangod

This was actually 2 responses to 2 different posts. 1 from Becky, 1 from EO where he said something like they spent 25 million to fix the superdome. That last sentence was in reponse to erroneos info from him. So I will stand by what I have said. Or jumping to conclusion as someone kinda souding like a heartless conservative, don't leave that off rich

, I will agree that we disagree.

again... if you read my statement and read your statement, I clearly thought you were referring to New Orleans. I do not know how else to express that other than to make the movie. so the heartless conservative retort was merely a sarcastic comeback, based on what it clearly appeared you were referring to. yes, I see the reference to an earlier post, but in my opinion, it still tied the whole conversation to New Orleans.

but you know what?

since I am clear as mud and jumping to conclusions, and you are standing by that, I'm going to say f*ck it and leave this thread now, because your point is clear as crystal. you are very obviously right, and I am very obviously wrong... whatever the hell that even means in the context of this thread.

loangod · #38 09-22-2006

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Originally Posted by rich_one

again... if you read my statement and read your statement, I clearly thought you were referring to New Orleans. I do not know how else to express that other than to make the movie. so the heartless conservative retort was merely a sarcastic comeback, based on what it clearly appeared you were referring to. yes, I see the reference to an earlier post, but in my opinion, it still tied the whole conversation to New Orleans.

but you know what?

since I am clear as mud and jumping to conclusions, and you are standing by that, I'm going to say f*ck it and leave this thread now, because your point is clear as crystal. you are very obviously right, and I am very obviously wrong... whatever the hell that even means in the context of this thread.

Rich....you there?..............I guess he's clearly left the thread

. Oh well, how 'bout those 2-0 Saints baby...Who Dey!

Stealersrule · #39 09-22-2006

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Originally Posted by loangod

Rich....you there?..............I guess he's clearly left the thread

. Oh well, how 'bout those 2-0 Saints baby...Who Dey!

Rich can be reached by a Private Message (PM)

rich_one · #40 09-22-2006

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Originally Posted by Stealersrule

Rich can be reached by a Private Message (PM)

he knows. I meant "leave the thread alone", but I was typing too fast. and he is now being a d*ck. he has no intention on PM'ing me... he was poking fun at me "leaving" the thread.

there are days where you really gotta love this place...