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clarke · #41 07-24-2006

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Originally Posted by eoeleven

Bruno called out the lack of maturity and suggested his motivation for addressing it was personal not professional

it is easy to say no one is rippign him because ripping him is probably too strong but plenty of people are questioning the choice not to let this die, ever even addressing the book, and makign attacks instead of just dismissing.

I think he handled it brilliantly......by doing less he would have been called out for running away, as the media accused him of last year. But instead of making a lot of noise and bluster he made a joke out of it, as he did whenever he was forced to address these same issues last year, and moved on. He was funny. Instead of saying "hey guys, we are talking about a book written by the biggest arse in professional sports and poorly written at that" he made a few jokes, which in some ways said the same thing, but he did it humoressly. I don't think you can handle it any other way when you know if you walked away from it the media would blast you for that and hound you the rest of preseason at the very minimum. This way he has addressed it and hopefully it will not dog him into preseason. Its over with now. It would not have been otherwise.

eoeleven · #42 07-24-2006

just like with the NAACP thing if McNabb stays quiet it is one moron taking unjustifiable comments against McNabb, however when and if you address the issue you give it validity.

McNabb never let that go and he is not letting TO go and that is bad for McNabb as a QB and the Eagles as a team.

to me these are minor things which could or could not turn into a bigger issue but Jason Whitlock went on for almost 2 hours on this on ESPN.

eoeleven · #43 07-24-2006

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Originally Posted by clarke

I think he handled it brilliantly......by doing less he would have been called out for running away, as the media accused him of last year. But instead of making a lot of noise and bluster he made a joke out of it, as he did whenever he was forced to address these same issues last year, and moved on. He was funny. Instead of saying "hey guys, we are talking about a book written by the biggest arse in professional sports and poorly written at that" he made a few jokes, which in some ways said the same thing, but he did it humoressly. I don't think you can handle it any other way when you know if you walked away from it the media would blast you for that and hound you the rest of preseason at the very minimum. This way he has addressed it and hopefully it will not dog him into preseason. Its over with now. It would not have been otherwise.

all I can say is you would not have heard one word about it from Tom Brady and none of this mess imagined or other wise would exist. The proper thing to do is not dignify it with an answer at all. It means NOTHING more than the rambling of an arse hole until McNabb gives it wings by acknowledging it.

His "play myself in the movie" comment was juvenille rhetoric not leadership

At some point McNabb has to distance and every time he addresses it in ANY way it is choosing not to distance.

clarke · #44 07-24-2006

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Originally Posted by eoeleven

these are acctual McNabb comments

CLARKE'S COMMENTS ARE BOLDED......COULD NOT FIGURE OUT HOW TO COMMENT ON EACH QUOTE WITHOUT DOING IT THIS WAY

"This season was a tough season from the beginning," McNabb told the Inquirer. "People may blame it on just one particular person, but ... it's something that kind of spread in the locker room.

Was he referring to a cancer in the locker room or the injuries and general poor play from having new faces on the field? Does not really say anything there.

"There's never been a question of me losing the locker room until this year. If I've lost the locker room, then the question goes up why. Is it because now people are starting to look at me sideways for what I've been doing, or what I make, or whatever he had a problem with? That's the question I'm trying to get answered: If I've lost the locker room or not? No answer has come my way.

I am not sure what he is saying there. This is the same thing he said 8 months ago, and I think he is more questioning who is making these questions? It has not been in the locker room from what I have heard. TOs biggest supporter has been Trotter, but he was supporting bringing TO back because TO is the best WR in the game. He has also been adament in his support of McNabb as the team leader from the beginning. Trotter was right to want TO back. He is the best WR, or top 3 in any case, in the game. The Eagles sucked last year. Of course, as a competitor, you want the best players availbable out there. But McNabb, in that comment above, does not say that he has lost the locker room. He says he does not know.....in other words, he has no indication, other than media speculation, that he has. But the other player's own words seem to back up that he has not.

"But I do know the main reason we're not a good team is because we don't play as a team. Everybody has to realize that in order for us to get back to the Super Bowl and win it, we all have to play well together. You never heard anything like this coming from the Indianapolis Colts. You never heard anything like this coming from the New England Patriots. Baltimore, when they won the Super Bowl, they never had anything like this."

He was completely right in this statement. They did not play together as a team. When did he make that comment? Had not heard it before. And isn't his job as a leader to make such observations? Last year, with TO swinging that machete around, they did not play as a team. He made it impossible. He is gone now. The reason why the Eagles have been one of the more successful teams in the league over the course of the last 6 years is their ability to share the ball, spread it around, and work as a single unit. They did not do that last year. Some of it was TO (most of it), but some of it was having your 2 starting WRs out, your starting QB out, your starting playmaker (RB) out, over half of your offensive line out. That makes a huge difference in cohesiveness.

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clarke · #45 07-24-2006

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Originally Posted by eoeleven

all I can say is you would not have heard one word about it from Tom Brady and none of this mess imagined or other wise would exist. The proper thing to do is not dignify it with an answer at all. It means NOTHING more than the rambling of an arse hole until McNabb gives it wings by acknowledging it.

His "play myself in the movie" comment was juvenille rhetoric not leadership

At some point McNabb has to distance and every time he addresses it in ANY way it is choosing not to distance.

i THOUGHT THE comment about playing himself was funny.

This is getting ridiculous. He cannot win if he stays away from the comments and he cannot win if he responds, even if its humorous. You and Twitlock are grasping at things here. Listen to a real expert like Ray Didinger.

eoeleven · #46 07-24-2006

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i THOUGHT THE comment about playing himself was funny.

This is getting ridiculous. He cannot win if he stays away from the comments and he cannot win if he responds, even if its humorous. You and Twitlock are grasping at things here. Listen to a real expert like Ray Didinger.

if he ignores the issue it dies and he does win.

clarke · #47 07-24-2006

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Originally Posted by eoeleven

if he ignores the issue it dies and he does win.

He tried that last season and it did not work.

eoeleven · #48 07-24-2006

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Originally Posted by clarke

He tried that last season and it did not work.

only because TO was not gone

If McNabb wants to do himself a favor he will say look new season new questions I will no longer address ANY questions about TO or last season, other than with my play on the field.

That would be the smart thing, the leadership thing, and the mature veteran player thing.

clarke · #49 07-24-2006

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Originally Posted by eoeleven

only because TO was not gone

If McNabb wants to do himself a favor he will say look new season new questions I will no longer address ANY questions about TO or last season, other than with my play on the field.

That would be the smart thing, the leadership thing, and the mature veteran player thing.

I think he has moved on. I believe that his last comments were his last. He had to comment with the new firestorm that the book had created. Avoiding that, in my opinion, was not an option. And he did it with humor, which was a good thing, that way nobody in their right mind can take it to heart. Now that camp has started in earnest I would be surprised if he said much more. Its for real now.

By the way, at lunch time Garganto was saying the exact same thing as I did about Pinkston....that with his speed on the outside going downfield it opens up the middle for Brown and Westbrook and prevents the opposing team from stacking the box and getting to McNabb quickly and preventing him from finding the open man. Now establish a little bit of a running game with Pinkston's speed and Westbrook and Brown will be ProBowlers.

First play of the season.......deep pass down the sideline for Pinkston......40 yard plus attempt. Thats my prediction. Unless, of course, Bloom takes it to the house on the Kick Return.

(actually, he is hurt right now.....I doubt he makes the team....at best, IR stash).

eoeleven · #50 07-24-2006

you are right about Bloom he more than likely starts on the PuP and moves to the practice squad

we shall see about McNabb, all my thought are based on success or lack off success this year. It would compund if McNabb gets hurt again.

the Pinkston Brown deal is set but I think the Eagles collective as well as myslef will feel much better about those two guys as #2 and #3 more than #1 and #2.

to me the WR success lies on...Hank Gaskett, Jabar Gaffney, and Jason Avant

Gaskett is 6'4 220 and is a piece the eagles need because he could impose his will in the red zone. Gaskett has Javon Walker skills IF he can put it all together. I was HAPPY to see him leave the Vikings roster and the Norse.

Gaffney is 6'1 205 but has never lived up to his college billing. He is still young enough to step foward an be soemthing special. If he can reach the potential that made Houston take him #1 overall in the second round then he will elevate the passign game. I hear a lot of people saying his cousin (Lito SHeppard) is pushing the kid hard to step up which could mean something.

Avant 6'0 215 is dinged right now but he is a warrior that started 30 games for the Wolverines. Avant always seems too slow, a tad short, etc but the kid plays football well and stepped into Brylon Edwards shoes last year nicely. I hate to use another Packer WR reference but Avant has ALWAYS reminded me of Donald Driver. A scrappy dude that might not should be able to do what he does but none the less does it.

if one of those guys step up I could see the Eagles passing game stepping up from TO not down.

Still the Eagles MUST MUST MUST get more than 365 carries at 3.9

in fact they need something close to the San Diego 470 and 4.5 to win their division.