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[eoeleven]

and you did not ever hear about the conflict with Brian Dawkins either yet none the less it was very true.

Bledsoe
Brunell
Brooks
Esiason
Montana
McNair
Namath

I am sorry if I do not see what McNabb has that even of these guys did not? If it can happen to Montana it can anyone.

again making the comment "childrens book" and goign on about how "HE" had to be in the book to sell it is not answerign questions that is chest puffing.

promoting and launching super five a week before training camp is chest puffing

you can look past the history of these type of things if you want.

you can ignore PTI, ESPN, Fox, and other that all have ran the footage of McNabb walkign into the owners box in his mink coat BLASTING him for choosing management over the team.

I am telling you that in the NFL we have seen the exact type of scenario that McNabb is going through turn very bad for the QB. Those are QBs with out complex injury historys, with more skins on the wall.

Think Jerry Rice would have gotten away with what TO did? Nope Kena Turner and Ronnie Lott would have left him bloody in the shower and Rice would be happy that Turner and Lott got there before McIntyre and Sapulo. Yet when Montana went in that owners box it all changed.

So you think all you want about McNabb being a better leader than Montana and I am going to go on thinking NOPE.

Just so I am clear I do not wish this on McNabb I just feel pretty confident that the course of events are leading that way.

McNabb cans ay no TO questions again none and the press core will agree, but again it is not McNabb answering questions of the media about TO it is McNabb answering questions of TO through the media.

IF TO truly was told by an Eagles coach that McNabb cracks in big games then that is the true cancer inside the eagles a coach not pullign the compnay line.

[clarke]

Originally Posted by eoeleven

and you did not ever hear about the conflict with Brian Dawkins either yet none the less it was very true.

Bledsoe
Brunell
Brooks
Esiason
Montana
McNair
Namath

I am sorry if I do not see what McNabb has that even of these guys did not? If it can happen to Montana it can anyone.

again making the comment "childrens book" and goign on about how "HE" had to be in the book to sell it is not answerign questions that is chest puffing.

promoting and launching super five a week before training camp is chest puffing

you can look past the history of these type of things if you want.

you can ignore PTI, ESPN, Fox, and other that all have ran the footage of McNabb walkign into the owners box in his mink coat BLASTING him for choosing management over the team.

I am telling you that in the NFL we have seen the exact type of scenario that McNabb is going through turn very bad for the QB. Those are QBs with out complex injury historys, with more skins on the wall.

Think Jerry Rice would have gotten away with what TO did? Nope Kena Turner and Ronnie Lott would have left him bloody in the shower and Rice would be happy that Turner and Lott got there before McIntyre and Sapulo. Yet when Montana went in that owners box it all changed.

So you think all you want about McNabb being a better leader than Montana and I am going to go on thinking NOPE.

Just so I am clear I do not wish this on McNabb I just feel pretty confident that the course of events are leading that way.

McNabb cans ay no TO questions again none and the press core will agree, but again it is not McNabb answering questions of the media about TO it is McNabb answering questions of TO through the media.

IF TO truly was told by an Eagles coach that McNabb cracks in big games then that is the true cancer inside the eagles a coach not pullign the compnay line.

You are taking TO's word as gospel, and all TO is about is promoting TO. I do not believe half of what I hear in the book.

The mink coat thing is a joke. He was told to stay off of the sidelines because he could not move to get out of the way of players crashing into the sidelines. You invest over $100 million dollars in a player the last thing you want is for him to have a setback because he cannot move to get out of the way of a play that ends in the middle of the sideline. Players that are not mobile are never on the field. And who cares if he was wearing a mink coat. Its cold in December in Philly. You are grasping at things.

Dawkins has been quoted as saying everything is cool, so I guess that is not an issue.

McNabb got ripped for not answering questions regarding TO, and he gets ripped for answering them. He cannot win. The truth is the book is about 75% about ripping McNabb. I would respond to questions too. If you take out McNabb in the book, you would have a short story. He told the truth. And from all accounts that I have heard, it is a children's story.

You are reading this whole thing wrong. McNabb will have a career year, without TO. This is not a fan talking, this is somebody who watches football. The man looks good. His receivers look sharp. His RB is healthy. His line is bigger and more experienced. He has 2 catching TEs. This will be a good year.

[eoeleven]

pretty sure that everything I am saying Cataldi has touched on and I pretty sure he is a local philly guy

now when Cataldi does it is more of speculation but none the less he says it

and as for Hugh Douglas he is the Eagles biatch and the only guy on the team to stick up for McNabb last year so why would he be different now?

if you only listen to Erskin and Douglas then you think the sky is green the tress are silver and that the Eagles are going to the super bowl

I seem to recall an Anthony Gargano in Philly that loves (d) to rip on McNabb too

[clarke]

Originally Posted by eoeleven

pretty sure that everything I am saying Cataldi has touched on and I pretty sure he is a local philly guy

now when Cataldi does it is more of speculation but none the less he says it

and as for Hugh Douglas he is the Eagles biatch and the only guy on the team to stick up for McNabb last year so why would he be different now?

if you only listen to Erskin and Douglas then you think the sky is green the tress are silver and that the Eagles are going to the super bowl

I seem to recall an Anthony Gargano in Philly that loves (d) to rip on McNabb too

Eskin actually pulls no punches, whether a player plays for Philly or not. Thats one of the two reasons I actually listen to that pompous windbag.

Cataldi is an idiot who I listen to only because of the people around him.....Al Morganti, Hugh Douglas, Rhea Hughes, and Kevin Jones. And they pull no punches when it comes to the teams too.

Gargano is the best football mind here in Philly (besides Ray Didinger, who is on the air on the weekend afternoons), and I have never heard him rip McNabb for the way he leads the team or plays. Last season he would rip him for a boneheaded play (such as the Dallas INT for TD that lost them that 2nd game). But he actually has been singing his praises. He does not think the team is going anywhere, but because he does not like Reids play calling and the lack of a power back. Didinger loves McNabb.

[eoeleven]

while I certainly think about 50% of TOs book is crap, I also have the impartial judgement to say that 50% of McNabb's rebuttles are also crap

some where in the middle a QB lost the best player on his team and instead fo gettign the team to ralley behind him to cast out the problem, McNabb went to management.

we shall see what happens

I do not care if Unitas and Elway had a child, it was raised by Favre, and coached by Montana, Manning, Brady and Weis the fact is if the Eagles cannot run 300 to 400 times this year with a 4.0 or better YPC then no QB is going to thrive there.

In the end I do not think McNabb is totally done I am just startign to think another city is in his future, especially if the Eagles have a bad season and get a high draft pick with all the stud QBs in this up coming draft.

If he played 3 more years, including this one, in Philly it woudl fit the 33 and out time schedule of McNair and would nto surprize me one bit.

[clarke]

Originally Posted by eoeleven

while I certainly think about 50% of TOs book is crap, I also have the impartial judgement to say that 50% of McNabb's rebuttles are also crap

some where in the middle a QB lost the best player on his team and instead fo gettign the team to ralley behind him to cast out the problem, McNabb went to management.

we shall see what happens

I do not care if Unitas and Elway had a child, it was raised by Favre, and coached by Montana, Manning, Brady and Weis the fact is if the Eagles cannot run 300 to 400 times this year with a 4.0 or better YPC then no QB is going to thrive there.

In the end I do not think McNabb is totally done I am just startign to think another city is in his future, especially if the Eagles have a bad season and get a high draft pick with all the stud QBs in this up coming draft.

If he played 3 more years, including this one, in Philly it woudl fit the 33 and out time schedule of McNair and would nto surprize me one bit.

The 33 and out scenario in Philly apparently only applies to Defensive players, but none named Dawkins. I believe they will keep McNabb if he is still performing.

I think you will see them running more this year, but they will still be a pass heavy offense. Expect a 3 headed monster attack much like they had 3 seasons ago. It will be Westbrook, Perry and Moats. This is good because, though all are small, Perry actually runs like a big back, but cannot take the pounding of an everydown back. Westbrook can be a top receiving threat who can break off a big run here and there, but he is definitely more of a pass threat, and Moats is the homerun hitter who can crank off a 50 yard run at any given moment and will command respect. Line him up in the backfield with Westbrook, especially on passing downs and catch the opponent off guard with him taking the ball long.

Plus, if the reports out of Lehigh are true about Pinkston's speed then I can see us going deep early in the game like we did in previous seasons and keeping the defense from stacking the box so often and getting to the QB, which will lead to a higher pass completion percentage, more yards, moving the chains, more scoring chances and less time on the field for our defense, all good things coming from one average, but fast, player.

[becky-mom]

Originally Posted by clarke

You are taking TO's word as gospel, and all TO is about is promoting TO. I do not believe half of what I hear in the book.

The mink coat thing is a joke. He was told to stay off of the sidelines because he could not move to get out of the way of players crashing into the sidelines. You invest over $100 million dollars in a player the last thing you want is for him to have a setback because he cannot move to get out of the way of a play that ends in the middle of the sideline. Players that are not mobile are never on the field. And who cares if he was wearing a mink coat. Its cold in December in Philly. You are grasping at things.

Dawkins has been quoted as saying everything is cool, so I guess that is not an issue.

McNabb got ripped for not answering questions regarding TO, and he gets ripped for answering them. He cannot win. The truth is the book is about 75% about ripping McNabb. I would respond to questions too. If you take out McNabb in the book, you would have a short story. He told the truth. And from all accounts that I have heard, it is a children's story.

You are reading this whole thing wrong. McNabb will have a career year, without TO. This is not a fan talking, this is somebody who watches football. The man looks good. His receivers look sharp. His RB is healthy. His line is bigger and more experienced. He has 2 catching TEs. This will be a good year.

The fact that he is is getting ripped For not answering questions.....and then FOR answering questions should tell you something.
I, too, believe that the rug is starting to slip out from under McNabb's feet.....that he is beginning to lose control.....

The season is getting close.....I guess only time will tell.....

[eoeleven]

Originally Posted by becky-mom

The fact that he is is getting ripped For not answering questions.....and thhen FOR answering questions should tell you something.
I, too, believe that the rug is starting to slip out from under McNabb's feet.....that he is beginning to lose control.....and the season is getting close.....I guess only time will tell.....

I think what your saying here is what I am kind of seeing. I just cannot ever see Tom Brady getting the treatment McNabb is getting, the whole dammned if I do dammned if I do not deal.

Then again I know Brady woudl distance like hell from this situation too

[clarke]

Originally Posted by becky-mom

The fact that he is is getting ripped For not answering questions.....and then FOR answering questions should tell you something.
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What does it tell you? That the media is a bunch of idiots? He is not getting ripped by his teammates, but by the media. Actually, right now he is not getting ripped by anybody but TO (in his book) and EO. NOBODY is ripping him. They are squarely behind him. I have seen zero sources ripping him besides TO and EO. So Becks, what does it tell you?

[becky-mom]

Originally Posted by clarke

What does it tell you? That the media is a bunch of idiots? He is not getting ripped by his teammates, but by the media. Actually, right now he is not getting ripped by anybody but TO (in his book) and EO. NOBODY is ripping him. They are squarely behind him. I have seen zero sources ripping him besides TO and EO. So Becks, what does it tell you?

Right now......that you are an Eagles fan.

An becoming an outraged one........

Look....I can see the scenario happening. I HAVE seen it happen before. I was shocked and seriously outraged when Montana's team turned on him.....and McNabb is not the leader that he was....

We will see as events unfold. Until then.....we will just have to wait....