Culpepper can read?

eoeleven · #1 06-15-2005

Recently asked about Randy Moss's comments that Kerry Collins was a better overall QB than Dante Culpepper Dante said; "When I heard that I thought Randy must have fell down and bumped his head I eman just looks at the numbers"

Kerry Collins
4th amoung active QBs ALL Time Attempts 21st over all Culpepper does not appear

4th amoung active QBs ALL Time Completetions 22nd over all Culpepper does not appear

4th amoung active QBs ALL Time Passing Yards 26th over all Culpepper does not appear

Collins 4 and 3 in the playoffs with 1 super bowl appearance
Culpepper 2 and 2 in the playoffs

Collins's teams have 45 wins since 1999
Culpepper's team has 39 wins since 1999

Now I grant Culpepper has had AWESOME years of late but think about this Collins did all that with out Randy Moss while Culpepper did all of it with him.

So Dante tell me again about the numbers?

adamsjs11 · #2 06-15-2005

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Originally Posted by eoeleven

Recently asked about Randy Moss's comments that Kerry Collins was a better overall QB than Dante Culpepper Dante said; "When I heard that I thought Randy must have fell down and bumped his head I eman just looks at the numbers"

Kerry Collins
4th amoung active QBs ALL Time Attempts 21st over all Culpepper does not appear

4th amoung active QBs ALL Time Completetions 22nd over all Culpepper does not appear

4th amoung active QBs ALL Time Passing Yards 26th over all Culpepper does not appear

Collins 4 and 3 in the playoffs with 1 super bowl appearance
Culpepper 2 and 2 in the playoffs

Collins's teams have 45 wins since 1999
Culpepper's team has 39 wins since 1999

Now I grant Culpepper has had AWESOME years of late but think about this Collins did all that with out Randy Moss while Culpepper did all of it with him.

So Dante tell me again about the numbers?

Collins has been playing for how much longer? I mean Testaverde blows Collins numbers away too, but doesn't mean he's a better QB than Collins does it?

dj_lance_steel · #3 06-15-2005

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Originally Posted by adamsjs11

Collins has been playing for how much longer? I mean Testaverde blows Collins numbers away too, but doesn't mean he's a better QB than Collins does it?

Bing bing bing! I was going to say that completions and attempts are the greatest of stats to stack up against anothers. Those stats are geared more around a career thing and offensive systems. Although yards, wins, playoff records are.

eoeleven · #4 06-15-2005

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Originally Posted by adamsjs11

Collins has been playing for how much longer? I mean Testaverde blows Collins numbers away too, but doesn't mean he's a better QB than Collins does it?

4 years 11,272 more yards or 2818 yards a season

not really suggesting Collins is better (hell some of his career numbers are better than Mannings so that woudl be silly to suggest) I am suggesting that MAYBE Dante should wait and see what not getting 1300 yards and 12.8 TDs a year spotted to him by Moss does to his NUMBERS before smarting off.

In theroy if it was Randy Moss that gave all those Vikings Qbs numbers (Cunningham, George, and Culpepper) as some people (including me) believe, Moss soon will put Collins out of reach of Culpepper for ever.

Seriously has he not seen the post Randy Moss NUMBERS Cunningham and George put up? It just seems like bad kharma for a 260 pound QB with recognition, ball control, and check down problems to be mouthing before he sees what losing Moss means to the offense.

adamsjs11 · #5 06-15-2005

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Originally Posted by eoeleven

4 years 11,272 more yards or 2818 yards a season

not really suggesting Collins is better (hell some of his career numbers are better than Mannings so that woudl be silly to suggest) I am suggesting that MAYBE Dante should wait and see what not getting 1300 yards and 12.8 TDs a year spotted to him by Moss does to his NUMBERS before smarting off.

In theroy if it was Randy Moss that gave all those Vikings Qbs numbers (Cunningham, George, and Culpepper) as some people (including me) believe, Moss soon will put Collins out of reach of Culpepper for ever.

Seriously has he not seen the post Randy Moss NUMBERS Cunningham and George put up? It just seems like bad kharma for a 260 pound QB with recognition, ball control, and check down problems to be mouthing before he sees what losing Moss means to the offense.

That I can agree with. By the way I thought Cunningham looked good for the Cowboys. At the time I was hoping they would bench Aikman for him.

dj_lance_steel · #6 06-15-2005

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Originally Posted by eoeleven

4 years 11,272 more yards or 2818 yards a season

not really suggesting Collins is better (hell some of his career numbers are better than Mannings so that woudl be silly to suggest) I am suggesting that MAYBE Dante should wait and see what not getting 1300 yards and 12.8 TDs a year spotted to him by Moss does to his NUMBERS before smarting off.

In theroy if it was Randy Moss that gave all those Vikings Qbs numbers (Cunningham, George, and Culpepper) as some people (including me) believe, Moss soon will put Collins out of reach of Culpepper for ever.

Seriously has he not seen the post Randy Moss NUMBERS Cunningham and George put up? It just seems like bad kharma for a 260 pound QB with recognition, ball control, and check down problems to be mouthing before he sees what losing Moss means to the offense.

I'd like to see him struggle this year.

Maybe that's because I'm a Packer fan though...

Stealersrule · #7 06-15-2005

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Originally Posted by eoeleven

4 years 11,272 more yards or 2818 yards a season

not really suggesting Collins is better (hell some of his career numbers are better than Mannings so that woudl be silly to suggest) I am suggesting that MAYBE Dante should wait and see what not getting 1300 yards and 12.8 TDs a year spotted to him by Moss does to his NUMBERS before smarting off.

In theroy if it was Randy Moss that gave all those Vikings Qbs numbers (Cunningham, George, and Culpepper) as some people (including me) believe, Moss soon will put Collins out of reach of Culpepper for ever.

Seriously has he not seen the post Randy Moss NUMBERS Cunningham and George put up? It just seems like bad kharma for a 260 pound QB with recognition, ball control, and check down problems to be mouthing before he sees what losing Moss means to the offense.

What do the numbers suggest pre and post Cris Carter. That was a great tandem (Carter and Moss).

eoeleven · #8 06-15-2005

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Originally Posted by Stealersrule

What do the numbers suggest pre and post Cris Carter. That was a great tandem (Carter and Moss).

I agree it was awesome prior to Carter's decline in 2001 (even that was a nice season)

Moss actually had his best season ever afte Carter left 1632 and 17 TDs in 2003.

eoeleven · #9 06-15-2005

I just did this for fun but...

if you subtract the 7829 yards and 73 TDs of Moss had between 2ooo and last year from Culpeppers career numbers it leaves him with

10,775 yards
56 Tds

now I understand someone would have picked up the slack in there and gotten some of that back but Moss's numbers represent 42% of the yards and 56.5% of the TDs

does nto indicate a spreading it around tendancy does it?

adamsjs11 · #10 06-15-2005

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Originally Posted by eoeleven

I just did this for fun but...

if you subtract the 7829 yards and 73 TDs of Moss had between 2ooo and last year from Culpeppers career numbers it leaves him with

10,775 yards
56 Tds

now I understand someone would have picked up the slack in there and gotten some of that back but Moss's numbers represent 42% of the yards and 56.5% of the TDs

does nto indicate a spreading it around tendancy does it?

How many of Montana's and Young's yards are attributed to Rice?