Presidential Race 08 Election 2008

[cowboys_junkie]

Originally Posted by loangod

Thanks!! Don't mind if I do. Or were you referring to someone else?

I could use one, this daily tball practice for my son is wearing me out. At least he knows how to run the bases.

[eoeleven]

the Dems are gutting each other

while John McCain is being endorsed by the grandam of the GoP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DheW-H5Ex34

[eoeleven]

Originally Posted by cowboys_junkie

I firmly believe this is just current ill will. I think these number will shrink drastically when the issues are put on the table and the traditional Democrat steps in the booth to vote, the same way I was getting cold feet when I went to vote in the primary.

The fact that McCain is really no different than either of these candidates will help, but I'm not sure true conservatives will come out to vote.

there is one man that hopes your wrong.

that wants to see the ill will continue to the convention

that would like to see Hillary and Obama GUT each other until the last possible day

~que the Imeprial march...



It is almost to the critical mass that Gore could walk into the convention, declare himself the great salvation of the party and walk out the nominee.

Would not be shocked at ALL to see the Dems emerge from a brokered convention with a Gore / Obama ticket

[eoeleven]

seriously isnt this how we should debate politics?

[eoeleven]

Originally Posted by clarke

If I was the everyday Democrat voter then I would be extremely pissed if this were to happen only because that was not the choice.....although it would be interesting because it would all but eliminate anybody caring about the next primary, because it would basically tell everybody that the primaries no longer matter, we are going to put whomever we want into the election, screw you....even if Gore is (in their eyes) a better choice.

it could only happen if the convention is brokered.

because then it is the delegates that decide not the people.

I would hate it as a GoPer because McCain versus Oscar and Noble winner Al Gore is a LOSS, possibly a 49 state LOSS.

I think Gore would be so welcomes by the majority of democratic voters the stink of the primaries think would blow over. He could easy talk about the botched election cycle, the dirty politics, and the good of the party.

In the end everyone loves a winner.

Al Gore could save the democratic party.

I hate Al Gore

[eoeleven]

Obama should make more appearances with Obama Girl...





and less with his America hating hag wife...

[cowboys_junkie]

Originally Posted by eoeleven

it could only happen if the convention is brokered.

because then it is the delegates that decide not the people.

I would hate it as a GoPer because McCain versus Oscar and Noble winner Al Gore is a LOSS, possibly a 49 state LOSS.

I think Gore would be so welcomes by the majority of democratic voters the stink of the primaries think would blow over. He could easy talk about the botched election cycle, the dirty politics, and the good of the party.

In the end everyone loves a winner.

Al Gore could save the democratic party.

I hate Al Gore

I don't think Gore would have more appeal to independents than would McCain. It's the independents who choose the President.

[rich_one]

Originally Posted by eoeleven

I think in a future time Barack Obama might have offered a lot to America. Maybe finish his senate term, maybe even get an Illionis Governor term. Then as a 50 to 55 year old man (still VERY young for the Presidency) he could have walked into Washington and been ready.

just asking this out of sheer curiosity, from a stanpoint of understanding... are you saying that if Barack finished his Senate term at least... maybe served a second one, or maybe served a term as governor... that you could see him as a more viable candidate? not that you would vote for him, mind you... but that you think he'd be a better candidate? in spite of all the muslim rhetoric, anti-semantic rhetoric, and being evil rhetoric, these simple steps, assuming he was successful at the jobs of course, would make you feel better about him running? just want to make sure I understand correctly.

[becky-mom]

Originally Posted by cowboys_junkie

Somebody needs a nap.

someone needs to think before they post.

[eoeleven]

Originally Posted by rich_one

just asking this out of sheer curiosity, from a stanpoint of understanding... are you saying that if Barack finished his Senate term at least... maybe served a second one, or maybe served a term as governor... that you could see him as a more viable candidate? not that you would vote for him, mind you... but that you think he'd be a better candidate? in spite of all the muslim rhetoric, anti-semantic rhetoric, and being evil rhetoric, these simple steps, assuming he was successful at the jobs of course, would make you feel better about him running? just want to make sure I understand correctly.

I am assuming that

1. he would be a more polished canidate with a better resume

2. we would no longer be at war with the muslim world so who cares if he is a muslim (I do not care that JFK was catholic, or that Romney is Mormon)

3. the anti semite thing probably does not come up because his foriegn policy advisor (the real anti jew in the Obama camp) would be dead

4. the anti-chirst crap would be null and void after 2012, plus the only real way to make that stick is the OUT OF NO where part.

but I do and always have felt that a 2nd term Obama or ex-senator now Governor Obama at 50 or 55 years old would be a hard canidate to beat.

He would not have been running against a nasty politican like Clinton either

In case I have not been clear, I have a problem with a man with muslim ties being president during a war with the muslim world. Not problems with a muslim man in general.

I would not have supported Arnold during our war with the Nazi's (Arnold's dad was rumored to be pro nazi)

so in short yes, I feel if Obama had waited one election cycle he would not only have been a better canidate, but probably a slam dunk canidate.