Election 2008

cowboys_junkie · #**1441** 04-23-2008

Don't forget Hillary's husband pardoned several domestic terrorists from the sixties some with the very same ties you have Obama tied to.

So they both have sympathy for the same ilk of America haters.

cowboys_junkie · #**1442** 04-23-2008

April 23, 2008 -- Hillary Clinton refuses to die. Having been given up for dead after losing Iowa, she rebounded in New Hampshire. Then a string of 11 straight consecutive losses - followed by a win in Ohio and a tie (in delegates) in Texas. Now, she's won Pennsylvania.
Problem is, it doesn't mean anything.

Because of the Democratic Party's arcane proportional-representation rules, her win stands to give her a net gain of 10 to 15 delegates when all is counted. That means that Barack Obama will fall from a lead of 161 in elected delegates to about 145 or so. Big deal.
The primaries coming up in the next two weeks - Indiana and North Carolina - are likely to give Obama back a goodly portion of those delegates. By the time all the primaries have been held, after June 3, there is no doubt that Obama will lead by more than 100 elected delegates, and likely 150. From there, it will be an easy route to the nomination.

The Democratic superdelegates aren't about to risk a massive and sanguinary civil war by taking the nomination away from the candidate who won more elected delegates. If they ever tried it, we'd see a repeat of the demonstrations that smashed the 1968 Chicago convention and ruined Hubert Humphrey's chances of victory.

Clinton won Pennsylvania for two key reasons: Only Democrats could vote in the primary, and the Keystone State electorate is dominated by the elderly, who are staunchly for Clinton.

Despite her claims of electability, Hillary has never done well among independent voters. And Obama usually loses the Democrats. Pennsylvania's closed-primary rules gave her a key advantage.

Older voters are flocking to Clinton as fears mount of what Obama might do as president mount. But those under 45 - less focused, perhaps, on race - are moving toward Obama. Here, that split helped her.

Of the 50 states, only Florida has a higher over-65 proportion of its population. But there's a key difference: Florida's elderly moved there - Pennsylvania's are the folks that are left after the young people moved away.

Pennsylvania Democrats, in other words, suffer from future shock. They welcome old, established ways and embrace dynasties happily because they are so familiar. (Look at the Bob Caseys - dad was governor, the son is senator.)

But don't expect the open primaries of Indiana and North Carolina to behave like Pennsylvania's geriatrics. Both states are younger, especially North Carolina, and independents can vote in each primary. (North Carolina is where a lot of the young people who fled Pennsylvania winters and job losses ended up).
Over the next two weeks, we'll be treated to much hoopla about how the Democratic race is once again up for grabs. Then, on May 5, Hillary's hopes will be dashed once more.

And then? After the votes are counted in all the primaries, look for the Gang of Four - Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and John Edwards - to join together and issue a challenge to the superdelegates: Make up your minds.

Together, they'll probably demand that these appointed delegates commit to one candidate or the other by mid June. And since the primaries will have lifted Obama over 1,900 delegates (elected and super), he'll only need about 100 more, out of about 300 uncommitted superdelegates.
Their hands forced, enough superdelegates will go to Obama to put him over the top - he'll be the candidate.

That's all, folks.

~Dick Morris

eoeleven · #**1443** 04-23-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarke

He may have anger issues, but he has character. He has served my country. He has earned my respect.

he has never had a wife he did not cheat on

just adding that, of the three evils I think he is the least evil, but he does have a character issue all his own in not being able to keep his pecker in his pants.

loangod · #**1444** 04-23-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by eoeleven

he has never had a wife he did not cheat on

just adding that, of the three evils I think he is the least evil, but he does have a character issue all his own in not being able to keep his pecker in his pants.

Ho ho ho ho ho. Ho ho ho ho ho
That's the Woody Woodpecker song
Ho ho ho ho ho. Ho ho ho ho ho
He's pecking it all day long
He pecks a few holes in a tree to see
If a redwood's really red
And it's nothing to him, on the tiniest whim
To peck a few holes in your head
Ho ho ho ho ho. Ho ho ho ho ho
That's the Woody Woodpecker tune
Ho ho ho ho ho. Ho ho ho ho ho
Makes the other woodpeckers swoon
Though it doesn't make sense to the dull and the dense
Why all the lady woodpeckers long
For ho ho ho ho ho. Ho ho ho ho ho
That's the Woody Woodpecker song
He he he he he. Ho ho ho ho ho
That's the Woody Woodpecker song
Hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo. I love you too
He's pecking it all day long
He pecks a few holes in a tree to see
If a redwood's really red
And it's nothing to him, on the tiniest whim
To peck holes in your head
He he he he ho. Hoo hoo hoo he ho
That's the Woody Woodpecker tune
Ho ho ho ho ho. He he he he he
Makes the other woodpeckers swoon
Though it doesn't make sense to the dull and the dense
Why all the lady woodpeckers long
For ho ho ho ho ho. Ho ho ho ho ho
That's the Woody wood,
That's the Woody Woodpecker song

cowboys_junkie · #**1445** 04-23-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarke

He may have anger issues, but he has character. He has served my country. He has earned my respect.

Rev. Wright has anger issues and has served the country.

clarke · #**1446** 04-23-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboys_junkie

Don't forget Hillary's husband pardoned several domestic terrorists from the sixties some with the very same ties you have Obama tied to.

So they both have sympathy for the same ilk of America haters.

Yes, she has one tie....he has several....big difference.

rich_one · #**1447** 04-23-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarke

Yes, she has one tie....he has several....big difference.

I also think she's white and named Hilary. He's black and named Barack. big difference.

Present company notwithstanding, I kind of agree with Josh, and I wonder how powerful some of this stuff would actually be if his name was... I don't know... John Johnson.

I'm sure it would still come out... I just wonder if it would have the same fire to it.

ah... we'll never know. I just wish this election gets over with at this point, because it has truly frayed my nerves... and that has never happened. I have never had a bigger urge to simply not vote period, ever, simply because I am sick of the way all these campaigns are going... in particular, I am sick of Hilary and Barack's party destroying war. The Clintons want this so bad, they would rather rip the party to shreds, than concede defeat. I wish I could say it boggles the mind... but alas... they are Democrats. I have actually come to expect this kind of self-destruction. so I suppose it does not boggle the mind at all. but it does continue to amaze...

loangod · #**1448** 04-23-2008

Here's a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry, be happy.
In every life we have some trouble
But when you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy.
Don't worry, be happy now.

CHORUS: Don't worry, be happy. Don't worry, be happy.
Don't worry, be happy. Don't worry, be happy.

Ain't got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don't worry, be happy.
The landlord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don't worry, be happy.

CHORUS: (Look at me -- I'm happy. Don't worry, be happy.
Here I give you my phone number. When you worry, call me,
I make you happy. Don't worry, be happy.)

Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
Ain't got no gal to make you smile
Don't worry, be happy.
'Cause when you worry your face will frown
And that will bring everybody down
Don't worry, be happy.

CHORUS: (Don't worry, don't worry, don't do it.
Be happy. Put a smile on your face.
Don't bring everybody down.
Don't worry. It will soon pass, whatever it is.
Don't worry, be happy.
I'm not worried, I'm happy...)

Just say the hell with Hillary and Obama....vote McCain rich!

rich_one · #**1449** 04-23-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by loangod

Here's a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry, be happy.
In every life we have some trouble
But when you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy.
Don't worry, be happy now.

CHORUS: Don't worry, be happy. Don't worry, be happy.
Don't worry, be happy. Don't worry, be happy.

Ain't got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don't worry, be happy.
The landlord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don't worry, be happy.

CHORUS: (Look at me -- I'm happy. Don't worry, be happy.
Here I give you my phone number. When you worry, call me,
I make you happy. Don't worry, be happy.)

Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
Ain't got no gal to make you smile
Don't worry, be happy.
'Cause when you worry your face will frown
And that will bring everybody down
Don't worry, be happy.

CHORUS: (Don't worry, don't worry, don't do it.
Be happy. Put a smile on your face.
Don't bring everybody down.
Don't worry. It will soon pass, whatever it is.
Don't worry, be happy.
I'm not worried, I'm happy...)

Just say the hell with Hillary and Obama....vote McCain rich!

LOL... I actually needed the laugh...

eoeleven · #**1450** 04-23-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich_one

I also think she's white and named Hilary. He's black and named Barack. big difference.

Present company notwithstanding, I kind of agree with Josh, and I wonder how powerful some of this stuff would actually be if his name was... I don't know... John Johnson.

I'm sure it would still come out... I just wonder if it would have the same fire to it.

honestly I think it is the name more than anything, and not the Barack part

you have to admit any one coming in with Hussein Obama part of his name would be at a disadvantage regardless of race or gender.

personally I do not think being black ties into being muslim, I would venture a guess there are more non-black muslims than there are black muslims right? I am basing that on a faded memory of hearing that most of the Asian world is either budhist or muslim.